They made this play in Washington State a few years ago: “think about how many people will come out to bars now that no one is smoking in them.” Never happened.
Why can’t government officials just leave citizens alone to do what they want in peace. If you want a non-smoking bar: God bless you. If you want a smoking bar: God bless you. No one is forcing you to go to either one. Have the liberty to choose.
Sandpiper Bar and Grill owner Paul Tousley is cautious about smoking in his bar, but said he'll halt the practice if that's what the Moscow City Council decides.
"We try to make everybody comfortable that comes in here, whether they smoke or not," Tousley said.
Moscow is considering implementing a smoking ban in bars within city limits, and a proposed ordinance was considered by the city's Administrative Committee on Monday. The committee recommended slight changes to the proposal, which will then be forwarded to the City Council.
Idaho allows smoking in bars, but permits municipalities to pass more restrictive laws.
Tousley said he and his wife are non-smokers but they respect the right of smokers to light up in their bar.
"If we didn't want smoke in here, we'd make it non-smoking," Tousley said. "But in this business, we don't want to offend anybody."
Tousley said he will go out of his way to make his outdoor patio as comfortable as possible for smokers who would be required to step out to smoke if the council approves the ban.
He said he knows bar owners in Washington who saw a drop in business when the state banned smoking in all public places in 2005, but business eventually picked up again.
"It's kind of a two-way street," Tousley said.
Roger Johnson, who owns Rico's Tavern in Pullman, said he has not seen the non-smokers who claimed they would frequent his business when Washington banned smoking in bars.
"We don't have any late-night (clientele) anymore," Johnson said.
He said patrons tend to come in earlier since the ban went into effect.
"I'm amazed at all the people who said they would go out if only there was no smoke," he said. "I've yet to see that happen."
Johnson said whether the business comes earlier or later, it is "going to be a wash." He indicated the amount of student traffic has remained about the same since the Washington ban went into effect.
Vicki Jahns, one of the owners of Mix in Moscow, said the non-smoking bar has seen a steady stream of business since it opened in October.
The decision to make Mix a non-smoking establishment was "a natural choice," Jahns said.
"We knew there was a niche for that," Jahns said. "It was something we just felt would be a welcome spot here in Moscow."
Jahns said there have not been any significant complaints about the bar's smoke-free atmosphere.
"We do have customers that are smokers," Jahns said. "People can feel free to step outside and smoke."
As a business owner, Jahns said the choice to allow smoking in a bar should be a personal one.
Part of the discussion during Monday's Administrative Committee meeting was whether it is within the city's purview to regulate smoking in private clubs as well as public bars.
Eagles Trustees Chairman Gary Cole said the lodge would have to discuss possible restrictions to its lounge during a formal meeting, but he can see an advantage to private club patrons being allowed to smoke if the practice was banned in public venues.
"It's like telling all the bars in town they can't sell beer anymore but the private clubs can," Cole said.
He anticipates an increase in the number of membership applications the Eagles receives if private clubs were made exempt under the proposed smoking ban.
"There are still a lot of people that like to smoke and a lot of people don't smoke unless they drink," Cole said. "If they can find a place to smoke, that's an advantage to private clubs" if the ban is approved.