November 2008 - Posts

For the girl who has everything.

From LifeSite:

Just In Time for Christmas - Gift Cards for Abortions from Planned Parenthood

Planned Parenthood of Indiana has announced just in time for Christmas that it will begin selling gift certificates at its clinics and online, which can be used for all PP services, including payment for birth control, STD testing, and abortions.

The Planned Parenthood of Indiana website says the gift cards can be used for "services or the recipient’s choice of birth control method," and poses the question "Why not buy a loved one a gift this holiday season that they really need"?

When asked about the appropriateness of a gift card for abortion, Chrystal Struben-Hall, Vice President of Planned Parenthood of Indiana told WISH-TV, "They really are intended for preventative healthcare. We decided not to put restrictions on the gift certificates so it's for whatever people feel they need the services for most."

Indiana Family Institute President Curt Smith, however, said he is appalled by the certificates.

"I think the way to help family planning is to give the money where there's no agenda. So if somebody wants to help a woman at a time of crisis, they can support the life centers throughout Indiana," Smith said in the WISH-TV report.

One blogger at the highly popular “Hot Air” blog quipped, “What kind of relationship would you have to have with someone for a gift certificate from Planned Parenthood to be appropriate? If you’re buying for your significant other, cash works just as well. If you’re buying for friends, um … what’s the message there? ‘Merry Christmas, buddy. The next prostate exam’s on me.’” 

HT: Adam S.

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Sharks of Steel

If you are interested in seeing a snipped of a documentary about submarines, check out this one from Sharks of Steel

HT: Bubblehead

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A kindergarten teacher may be fired for a Facebook comment that she was “teaching in the most ghetto school in Charlotte.”

A kindergarten teacher may be fired for a Facebook comment, saying she was “teaching in the most ghetto school in Charlotte.”

Charlotte Superintendent Peter Gorman recommended she be fired.

The teacher’s attorney, John Gresham, said his client didn’t intend to offend her students and was telling the truth about the resegregated school, where only 3 percent of students are white and 93 percent qualify for lunch subsidies to low-income families.

While the statement may be factually true, that doesn’t matter.

HT: Joanne J.

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Keep it up, voters

If someone attends Moscow’s League of Women Voters, would you please let Nance Ceccarelli know that the US is not a democracy; it’s a constitutional republic. In fact, the term “democracy” gave our founding fathers the willies (e.g., see The Federalist No. 10) — not that anyone actually reads the Federalists Papers or Aristotle’s Politics any more.

So, no, the form of government in the US is not mobocracy/ochlocracy/majoritarianism.

The following letter to the editor appeared in today’s Lewiston Tribune:

Keep it up, voters

There are many memorable images from election 2008, but perhaps none is more heartening than that of Americans voting in staggering numbers at the polls. In Latah County, of the 26,360 registered voters, 18,071 citizens turned out to vote, for a 68.55 percent voter turnout. It is an affirmation that our democracy is alive and well.

Thank you to all citizen voters for your deep commitment to voting and for your patience and perseverance throughout this lengthy election cycle. Thank you, too, for the dedication of our voting officials who enable us to vote early, work to resolve technical difficulties, and ensure all voices are heard.

Enthusiastic participation from voters, especially voters ages 18-29, gave democracy a big boost. The challenges we face together in our towns and in our nation require our continued active participation in this democracy. It is gratifying to see so many people engaged in local political processes as volunteers in campaigns, as volunteers with our youth in mock elections, and as volunteers at polling places or providing transportation for those wishing to vote. However, there is always more we can do.

The League of Women Voters of Moscow works year-round to safeguard democracy through information dissemination and education programs that allow citizens to engage in thoughtful decision-making. I invite all of you in the community to maintain a commitment to civic improvement by joining us at our Wednesday Speaker Series where we explore topics of local interest and of national concerns; and please, consider becoming a member of League of Women Voters of Moscow.

Together we can keep our community strong, healthy and vibrant.

Nance Ceccarelli
Moscow 

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Obituary: Rev. George M. Docherty was 97 - Responsible for 'under God' phrase in Pledge of Allegiance

From MSNBC:

Pastor who helped get 'God' in U.S. pledge dies

President Eisenhower heard his allegiance sermon in 1952

ALEXANDRIA, Pa. - The clergyman credited with helping to push Congress to insert the phrase "under God" into the Pledge of Allegiance died in Alexandria, Pa., a church official said.

The Rev. George M. Docherty was 97.

Nancy Taylor, historian for the Huntingdon Presbyterian Church, said Docherty died on Thanksgiving at his home in Alexandria, with his wife, Sue, by his side.

Docherty delivered a sermon saying the pledge should acknowledge God in
1952 at Washington's New York Avenue Presbyterian Church, just blocks from the White House.

On Feb. 7, 1954, he delivered it again after learning that President Dwight Eisenhower would be at the church.

Congress inserted the words a few months later.

HT: Gary E.

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More Pictures from Wingers

More pictures from Wingers. These were taken at 10:00 am.

It appears that the fire was mostly above the kitchen area.

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Major Fire at Wingers

I drove by Wingers this morning around 7:00 a.m., and there were many fire trucks there, and there were flames shooting out of the top of the building.

I took some pictures on my phone, but we were too far away for them to look very good.

Hopefully the Daily News will have something on it before Monday night.

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ChasUK Quote of the Day: Uncle Tom Thomas

From Venom2020:

With Clarence "Uncle Tom" Thomas on the bench, this case does have me slightly worried.

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I guess any black man who is not a Democrat is automatically an “Uncle Tom”.

I wonder if Chaz would include Alan Keyes, Thomas Sowell, and Walter Williams in his list of “Uncle Toms”?

Perhaps he would include Condi Rice in that list as well?

Funny how short some people’s memories are. It was the Democrats who supported Jim Crow and slavery; and the Republicans that were the party of Lincoln. Perhaps these individuals are getting back to their roots.

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Teary-eyed communists cheer Obama victory: Celebrate 'biggest political realignment since 1930s … first step toward a new society'

From World Net Daily:

Communist Party USA leaders – including one who spoke with tears in his eyes – held a confab at which they celebrated the election of Barack Obama as "the biggest political realignment since the 1930s" and urged the immediate implementation of socialist policies.

The People's Weekly World, a weekly newspaper affiliated with the Communist Party USA, or CPUSA, reported on a meeting last week of top party leaders who celebrated Obama's election and announced a call to action to "carry out the election mandate, including immediate government steps to help Americans hit by the economic crisis and bringing peace to Iraq and Afghanistan."

CPUSA National Chairman Sam Webb noted the election represented "a necessary first step toward a new society."

He stated that a required remedy to the country's financial crisis "is massive fiscal expansion, large injections of federal money into the economy [to fund public works job programs, extend jobless benefits and food stamps and help Americans hold onto their homes]."  

The communist newspaper reported party leaders attending the meeting supported projecting socialism as a fundamental solution to America's woes, claiming the U.S. is "now open to hearing more about [socialism]."

"We need to put out our vision of socialism and how it will come about," Webb stressed.

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Retailers Counting on Cyber Monday as Bright Spot of Challenging Holiday Season

Cyber Monday is becoming a bigger and bigger sales day every year.

Here’s a list of stores having Cyber Monday sales:

From the National Retail Federation:

Retailers Counting on Cyber Monday as Bright Spot of Challenging Holiday Season --Over 80% of Online Retailers to Offer Cyber Monday Promotions--

Washington, November 24, 2008—People who don’t want to fight Black Friday crowds will have a less chaotic shopping option just three days later. Cyber Monday, the Monday after Thanksgiving, is expected to be more promotional than ever this year as retailers offer one-day sales and special offers to bring holiday shoppers online.

On Cyber Monday, the ceremonial kickoff to the online holiday shopping season, online retailers will debut thousands of promotions to show what websites have to offer this holiday season. According to the eHoliday Survey, conducted for Shop.org this fall by Shopzilla, 83.7 percent of retailers will have a special promotion for Cyber Monday, up from 72.2 percent last year. The most popular promotions are expected to be specific deals (38.8%), email campaigns (32.7%), and one-day sales (24.5%). Additionally, nearly one-fourth of retailers (22.5%) will offer free shipping on all purchases.

“As shoppers focus on price this holiday season, online retailers will be extremely competitive to offer the very best deals,” said Scott Silverman, Executive Director of Shop.org. “Americans who are looking to put a dent in their holiday shopping will be able to find thousands of bargains on Cyber Monday.”

Cyber Monday, a term coined by Shop.org in 2005, began after online retailers noticed a trend of people shopping online on the Monday after Thanksgiving. Since then, consumers have flooded websites on Cyber Monday and come to expect robust promotions and specials that day.

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Socialist Republic

We’re all Keynesian, Eurosocialists now.  

From Patrick J. Buchanan:

Barack Obama and George W. Bush seem to have come away from their study of the Great Depression with similar conclusions:

To wit: After the Crash of 1929, the Federal Reserve did not move fast enough to save the banks and inject cash into the economy. Second, the New Deal, far from being wastrel deficit spending, was not bold enough. So it was that America wallowed in depression for a decade until the unbridled spending and mammoth deficits of World War II pulled us out.

Bush and Obama seem determined not to make the same mistake.

We are all Keynesians now.

Thus, we have the $700 billion Bush bank bailout, the $700 billion “stimulus package” Obama wants by inauguration to “jolt this economy back into shape” and the $800 billion fund Hank Paulson created to get consumers borrowing and buying again.

These come on top of Bush $455 billion deficit, the $29 billion bailout of Bear Stearns, the $105 billion in pork to grease the $700 billion bailout, the $100 billion to $200 billion to keep Fannie and Freddie afloat, the $140-billion-and-counting for AIG, the $25 billion for the greening of GM, Ford and Chrysler, the $25 billion more to save the Big Three and the $20 billion for CitiGroup.

Now much of this overlaps, and some will be retrieved. But we are still staring at a deficit that could approach $2 trillion.

 

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Kathleen Parker: In basic civics, Americans get 'F'

The following editorial by Kathleen Parker ran in the Orlando Sentinel.

All you have to do is talk to a few college students to realize what kind of education they are getting.

So much for the wisdom of The People.

A new report from the Intercollegiate Studies Institute on the nation's civic literacy finds that most Americans are too ignorant to vote.

Out of 2,500 American quiz-takers, including college students, elected officials and other randomly selected citizens, nearly 1,800 flunked a 33-question test on basic civics. In fact, elected officials scored slightly lower than the general public with an average score of 44 percent compared to 49 percent.

Only 0.8 percent of all test-takers scored an "A."

America's report card may come as little surprise to fans of Jay Leno's man-on-the-street interviews, which reveal that most people don't know diddly about doohickey. Still, it's disheartening in the wake of a populist-driven election celebrating joes-of-all-trades to be reminded that the voting public is dumber than ever.

The multiple-choice quiz wouldn't deepen the creases in most brains, but the questions do require a basic knowledge of how the U.S. government works.

Think fast: In what document do the words "government of the people, by the people, for the people" appear? More than twice as many people (56 percent) knew that Paula Abdul was a judge on "American Idol" than knew that those words come from Lincoln's Gettysburg Address (21 percent).

In good news, more than 80 percent of college graduates gave correct answers about Susan B. Anthony, the identity of the commander in chief of the U.S. military and the content of Martin Luther King Jr.'s "I Have a Dream" speech.

But don't pop the cork yet. Only 17 percent of college grads understood the difference between free markets and centralized planning.

Then again, we can't blame the children for what they haven't been taught. Civics courses, once a staple of junior and high school education, are no longer considered important in our quantitative, leave-no-child-behind world. And college adds little civic knowledge, the study found. The average grade for those holding a bachelor's degree was just 57 percent – only 13 points higher than the average score of those with only a high school diploma.

Most bracing: Only 27 percent of elected officeholders in the survey could identify a right or freedom guaranteed by the First Amendment.

Forty-three percent didn't know what the Electoral College does. And 46 percent didn't know that the Constitution gives Congress power to declare war.

What's behind the dumbing down of America?

Why not ask them politically correct questions? I’m sure they would score 100% on that.

But things that really matter, we fail at.

Brilliant.

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Iraqi parliament: All U.S. forces must be out by the end of 2011

This could be the opening we are looking for.

If the Iraqi leaders ask us to leave, we can leave.

From the Seattle Times:

The long, costly story of American military involvement in Iraq moved closer to an end Thursday when Iraq's parliament approved a pact that requires all troops to be out in three years, marking the first clear timetable for a U.S. exit since the 2003 invasion that ousted Saddam Hussein.

The vote for the security deal followed months of tough talks between U.S. and Iraqi negotiators followed by deal making between ethnic and sectarian groups whose centuries-old rifts had hardened during the first four years of the war.

The war has claimed more than 4,200 American lives and killed an untold number of Iraqis, consumed huge reserves of money and resources and eroded the global stature of the United States, even among its closest allies.

Now an end is in sight, and American troops could leave sooner if President-elect Barack Obama makes good on a plan to pull out combat troops within 16 months of moving into the White House in January.

Some troops are likely to redeploy to face an insurgency that has expanded in Afghanistan even as attacks have diminished in Iraq, where the U.S. believes Iraqi forces are better able to fend for themselves. The terms of the security pact reflect that confidence: U.S. forces will withdraw from Iraqi towns and cities by June 30 and the entire country by Jan. 1, 2012.

"This is a historic day for the great Iraqi people," Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki said in a 10-minute address on national television. "We have achieved one of its most important achievements in approving the agreement on the withdrawal of foreign forces from Iraq and restoring the sovereignty it lost two decades ago."

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Five Years Ago Today

As reported in today's edition of the Moscow-Pullman Daily News.

More than 125 Muslim men and boys gathered in the gymnasium at the Gladish Community and Cultural Center for the feast of Eid ul-Fitr. More than 125 Muslim women and daughters gathered upstairs in the View Room.

Celebrate diversity!

Where’s the “colored drinking fountains”?  

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Not a taxpayer problem

The following letter to the editor appeared in today’s Moscow-Pullman Daily News:

Not a taxpayer problem

It's always interesting to hear so-called conservatives talk about how personal responsibility is the key to the good life. If we're going to argue that not wearing seat belts should be a state-approved right (Daily News, Nov. 24, Page 5A), we should add that if your decision to not wear seat belts should result in your winding up unable to care for yourself or die, the taxpayer also should enjoy the personal responsibility and state-sanctioned right to not have to put a dime into your vegetative or otherwise unworkable existence.

Likewise, I am proud of Idaho's "no-helmet law," which allows adults to ride motorcycles without a hard hat. But if I drop the bike for any reason and crack my head like an egg, nobody else should have to pay for me to spend the next 25 years as a turnip.

August Levitt, Moscow

I’m in agreement with August.

Just as life insurance companies have suicide clauses, auto insurance dealers should have seat belt/helmet clauses.

If you want to ride a motorcycle without a helmet, have at it. But don’t expect either the insurance company or the taxpayers to pickup your medical bills if you crack your skull open.

Welcome to personal liberty and responsibility.

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Moscow: common-sense friendly?

The following editorial by Michael J. O’Neal appeared in today's edition of the Moscow-Pullman Daily News.

As I tell my kids: even if you are in the right and you get killed, you are still dead.

Pedestrians and bikers in Moscow continually exhibit the arrogance that O’Neal discusses below.

Pedestrians are not holier than car drivers. Neither are bike riders, especially those wearing Spandex.

Some weeks ago, a spate of accidents occurred along Moscow's Pullman Road. One involved a pedestrian, the other a bicyclist. The consequence was wailing and gnashing of teeth that Moscow is not a pedestrian- or bicycle-friendly community. And then of course all this branches out to another Very Big Issue, the environment, since those who are not driving cars are "green" and the rest of us in our gas-slurping death machines are deep-dyed culprits of another hue, even if we're hauling groceries or kids, or if we live in outlying areas. It's not easy being green these days.

Sorry, but I felt sorry for the drivers. In at least one of the incidents, witnesses said that the pedestrian punched the crosswalk light button and without any hesitation blundered out into the street.

I have seen this occur many times myself. If I see anyone head toward the cross-walk, I slow down (even if they are not crossing) because they will step right out without caring.  

This happens all the time. I'm frightened to death that my life is going to be changed forever because a pedestrian or bike rider darts into an intersection without looking and I don't see the person because of late-afternoon glare or because traffic in the other lane blocks my view. On numerous occasions I've been driving down Sixth Street through the University of Idaho campus. A group of students are chatting on the sidewalk. I'm eyeballing them, trying to divine their intentions, because sure 'nuff, one will wheel away from the group and dart into the crosswalk without even looking up. Kindergarteners know better.

Agreed. Pedestrians at the UI scare me to death. They come up to a cross-walk and you have no idea what they are going to do. They don’t bother to make eye-contact with drivers or anyone else.

Don't get me started on bikers. Here's something that happens all the time. You're driving along. There's a bike lane on your right. You want to make a right turn. You slow down, check your mirrors, put on your turn indicator. And then, you're partway into the turn and have to slam on the brakes because a biker dashes down the bike lane. But you couldn't see him coming because he was hidden by the traffic stacked up behind you.

But somehow, when a tragedy occurs, we're going to find a way to pin it on the driver.

If Moscow isn't a pedestrian- or bike-friendly town, good. It shouldn't be. Cars are big and heavy and take a while to stop. Maybe instead it should be a common-sense-friendly town. If you run into a car, guess what? You lose. So pay attention. You want car drivers to be courteous and watch out for you? Fine. In the meantime, perhaps you could be courteous and watch out for cars.

And this leads to another Very Big Issue. The notion of personal responsibility is deader than road kill. Everything is someone else's fault. If I can't pay my mortgage, it's because of predatory lenders or the failure of government oversight, so the government should bail me out. If I make horrendous business decisions and my company teeters at the edge of a cliff, it's someone else's fault and the government should pull me back from the precipice. If I'm a student and can't get a paper in on time, that's someone else's fault, and if the professor holds me accountable, I run and whimper to the department chair or dean. If I spill hot coffee on myself, I sue.

This is the culture we live in, so it's no wonder that people on foot or bike believe the municipality is responsible for their safety, not themselves.

And to those people on foot or bike who are courteous and don't arrogantly presume that all traffic should come to a screeching halt just for you, thanks. There are many of you. Talk to the others. 

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UAW-Ford Contract Sheds Light on Big Three’s Situation

The Mackinac Center has a copy of all 5 volumes (2,211 pages!) of the master contract between the United Auto Workers and Ford Motor Company.

These demonstrate the role that UAW has played in bringing down the Big Three.

As Paul Kersey notes:

The UAW's many critics, the Mackinac Center for Public Policy among them, have argued for years that imprudently generous wages and benefits combined with inefficient work rules have contributed greatly to the difficulties confronting the automakers. The long-term survival of Detroit's automakers depends on labor costs being brought in line with those of non-union competitors and with workplace procedures being streamlined.

It will require the Big Three to declare bankruptcy so that they can reorganize and reset all of the union contracts to ground zero. Only then will they survive.

HT: Randy S.

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Sentenced to Listen to Other's "Noise"

Now here’s a doozie.

Teens who play music too loudly may be sentenced to listen to Barney the Dinosaur and Barry Manilow.

Via 9News:

The members of the rock band Revolving Reverence have big plans. They want platinum albums. They want sold-out shows. They want legions of fans.

On the night 9NEWS visited them, however, all the freshmen in high school wanted was way out of the room they were in.

"You can't fall asleep," Rueben Fuentes says right before letting out a bit of a sigh.

Fort Lupton Police recently caught them and about a dozen or so others residents violating the town's noise ordinance. So as a form of punishment, the town had them sit in a room for an hour and listen to everything from Barry to Barney.

That's Barry Manilow and Barney the Purple Dinosaur in case you're wondering.

"These people should have to listen to music they don't like," said Judge Paul Sacco.

Ten years ago, Judge Sacco noticed something that bothered him. It wasn't just the fact that so many of the faces in his courtroom were so very familiar to him. There were a lot of repeat offenders.

No, what really irked him was the idea that many of them were teenagers who simply came equipped with their parent's cash in hand to help them pay off the fines that he would inevitably impose.

Being forced to listen to Manilow and Barney sounds more like water-boarding torture.

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The Price of Ammo is going up

There’s a run on ammunition right now. I know people here in Idaho who are stocking up, just in case.

There are two factors: the fear that Obama is going to “tweak” the 2nd Amendment.

And news like this:

The bill that is being pushed in 18 states (including Illinois and Indiana) requires all ammunition to be encoded by the manufacturer in a data base of all ammunition sales. So they will know how much you buy and what calibers. Nobody can sell any ammunition after June 30, 2009 unless the ammunition is coded.

Any privately held uncoded ammunition must be destroyed by July 1, 2011. (Including hand loaded ammo.) They will also charge a .05 cent tax on every round so every box of ammo you buy will go up at least $2.50 or more!

If they can deprive you of ammo they do not need to take your gun!

This legislation is currently pending in 18 states: Alabama, Arizona, California, Connecticut, Hawaii, Illinois, Indiana, Kentucky, Maryland, Mississippi, Missouri, New Jersey, New York, Pennsylvania, Rhode Island, South Carolina, Tennessee, and Washington.

To find more about the anti-gun group that is sponsoring this legislation and the specific legislation for each state, go to:
http://ammunitionaccountability.org/Legislation.htm

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The End Game

Excellent observations by Mark Hendrickson over at The Aquila Report:

If you wanted to turn the United States of America into a socialist country, what strategy would you adopt? Joseph Stalin, the world’s top communist from 1924 to 1953, is reputed to have advocated the following strategy to William Z. Foster, leader of the Communist Party U.S.A.: “Work for more government intervention and control of the business activities of the people. In this way the American people will accept Communism without knowing it.”

Stalin would be pleased with the trend in America since he dispensed that advice. He would be positively delighted with the recent partial nationalizations of the housing, mortgage, financial, and insurance industries during the Crash of 2008. He would be even more thrilled by the future prospects for socialism in America.
 
The Democrats seem to have found the perfect strategy to replace free markets with government control. Their game plan is now clear: to move incrementally but inexorably from capitalism (free markets) to socialism (government control of economic activity).
Mark details the various stages of creeping socialism.
 
Well worth the read.
HT: Dave M.
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Effective Net Worth per Citizen by Country

This graph is via Credit Loan.

It would appear that the US is better off than most of the world.

And the UK is in a world of hurt (pardon the pun).

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Here’s how the authors of the original post stated it:

In this sense, the UK is just like your friend that spends exactly what they make, or even beyond their means to try and impress his/her friends. This is worse than living month to month – it’s like living a month to two months behind! And now, the UK is accumulating new debt at a faster rate than the economy. If the UK were a private citizen, it might be time for him/her to sell off what they can and move to Panama, or declare some type of bankruptcy.

HT: Adam S.

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Progressive Taxation: Europe Vs. U.S.

Real Clear Markets has a chart that shows progressive income taxes in Europe and the US.

Good thing that the US is so “progressive”.

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Explore flu trends across the U.S.

Google can do amazing things with all kinds of data.

Google has a site up that can identify influenza outbreaks two weeks faster than the Centers for Disease Control can.

Check out this video graph.

Google is amazing.

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The Six Miracles of Socialism

Perhaps The One can bring these miracles to fruition…

The Six Miracles of Socialism

1. There's no unemployment, but nobody actually works.

2. No one works, but everyone gets paid.

3. Everyone gets paid, but there's nothing to buy with the money.

4. No one can buy anything, but everyone owns everything.

5. Everyone owns everything, but no one is satisfied.

6. No one is satisfied, but 99% of the people vote for the system.

Bennett Owen, National Review in 1990

HT: Mark J. Perry

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Screwing Ourselves

Walter-williamsFrom George Mason University economics professor Walter E. Williams:

There's a growing anti-trade sentiment in our country. Much of the dialogue is grossly misinformed. Let's try to untangle it a bit with a few questions and observations.

Does the U.S. trade with Japan and England? Put another way, is it members of the U.S. Congress trading with their counterparts in the Japanese Diet or the English Parliament? Of course not. When I purchased my Lexus, I had nothing to do with either the Japanese Diet or the U.S. Congress. Through an intermediary, a Lexus dealer, I dealt with Toyota Motor Corporation.

While it might be convenient to speak of one country trading with another, such aggregation can conceal a lot of evil, particularly when people call for trade barriers. For example, what would be a moral case for third-party interference, by either the Japanese Diet or the U.S. Congress, with an exchange between me and Toyota Motor Corporation?

Some might reason that since Japan places restrictions on U.S. products entering their country, an appropriate retaliatory measure is not to allow Japanese products to freely enter the U.S. Consider that Japanese protectionist restrictions on rice imports force Japanese consumers to pay three or four times the world price for rice. How much sense does it make for Congress to retaliate against Japan by imposing restrictions on their products thereby forcing American consumers, say Lexus buyers, to pay higher prices? Should our rule be: If one country screws its citizens we should retaliate by screwing our citizens? 

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